Gestern • 46 Min.

The Trump administration wants to accelerate the use of artificial intelligence for scientific discovery. But can its plan succeed without prioritizing universities? Guest host Tyler Cowen speaks with Michael Kratsios, President Trump’s top science and technology adviser, about the White House’s new blueprint for American innovation and what it means for the next generation of scientists. 00:00 Intro 00:54 The model for scientific research today 02:49 What's the scientific evidence that science has been broken? 04:38 What are the administration’s science funding priorities? 10:55 What's the role of universities in training scientists? 16:31 Science and immigration policy: are we getting it wrong? 18:55 Who has the final say over what gets funded? 24:43 Should political appointees have the ability to block particular grants? 28:29 Longevity science vs. a man on the moon 29:16 Why is Trump calling it superintelligence vs. artificial intelligence? 30:46 Does the White House think AI safety concerns are a "hoax"? 34:50 Should the federal government fund a lot more AI safety research? 39:07 How much could scientific discovery be turbocharged in the next five years? 41:00 A.I. regulation & preventing backlash Note: As we work on relaunching “Interesting Times,” the show will feature a series of guest hosts in the coming months. (A full transcript of this episode is available on the Times website.) Thoughts? Email us at interestingtimes@nytimes.com. Please subscribe to our YouTube Channel, Interesting Times. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts, Spotify and Amazon Music. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.