14.04.2017 • 26 Min.

How do we reconcile unexpected American military action overseas with President Trump’s isolationist campaign rhetoric? Guests: Helene Cooper, a reporter in Washington who covers the Pentagon; Rick Perlstein, who writes for The Times Magazine. For more information on today’s episode, visit http://nyti.ms/2omilHM. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. You can also subscribe via your favorite podcast app here https://www.nytimes.com/activate-access/audio?source=podcatcher. For more podcasts and narrated articles, download The New York Times app at nytimes.com/app. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.